"Don’t Take Candy From Strangers"

[Bill Wardell]

Hi Everyone,

To all my friends, and soon to be friends here a on FTR here is a very special Thank You for making me feel so welcome and good about being a part of this wonderful community!

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Thanks,

Bill

[Bill Wardell]

Hi David,

As far as flaming the group, and being a mindless idiot guess that is your opinion...

On our weekly radio show we had a representative for the Love146.org site on yesterdays show and she has a very difficult job, she helps and councils children as young as 4 years old that have been kidnapped, beaten and forced into prostitution or placed in sex slaves rings and the numbers are staggering on how many of these children don't make it through, and if they do their lives are destroyed forever...

So my book is made available to all of our radio show listeners, and I thought it would be a nice gesture to make sure everyone here at our community had the opportunity to get that same book, so they would know what their first steps should be to start protecting their children, online...

As for as Jack taken care of me, he already has I have been a member of ASC for over 3 years and would never to anything that would hurt his social community...

As far as online security what would you have me talk about or write about, when the number 2 organized crime in the world is Human Trafficking and the internet is the wave of IT's future, and this how it's being proliferated NOW, there already 25,000 ads on Craiglist every 10 days for erotic services... and it's happening right now to thousands of kids daily they're a part of the supply and demand and it is being generated and driven by organized criminals on the internet, that are using all the same tools you and I use, like finalizing the deals via online transactions, webpages, communications, and yes social communities etc...

Sorry I rubbed you the wrong way, and for anyone who has small children or teenagers, it might be wise to download the book... rather than judging something, by its cover!

And yes you are right, it is all about perception...


Bill

[Christopher]

I have to interject ... at the risk of invoking the wrath of David Lee Venters. But there are some things that I need to say in the interest of fairness. You've made some serious passionate remarks concerning the integrity of a man and the website he's building and maintaining. Some of those remarks, I think are unfair and you've gone along far enough unchallenged in such unfair cases.

Beginning with implications of Bill being a mindless idiot. Now ... however you may feel about the content he has out ... surely you can understand that the comments were rather harsh if not unwarranted ... even if you are at liberty to say those things.

Yes or no?

Then after a few scroll abouts and taking an ebook you don't really want ... you decide to take any shortcomings the product may have and have a field day with it. If the product is so bad and the message is that confusing to you ... don't you think offering a word of comment or advice is far more post worthy than berating the man?

Wouldn't you rather help and develop relations? And for the record ... don't you fancy internet consultancy? If he is doing such a bad job ... is he not a potential client? Isn't such a person a potential asset to you and your business? Consider the "consultant" role in this kind of issues.

You nitpick at the man's website theme: online security. Clearly there is some categorizations on the site itself. And software security issues is, in fact, the least focused on subject on those websites. Is it not fair to assume that online security encompasses more than software issues? I'm sure you carry some part of your life online. You most likely store your personal information somewhere the web. It should make good sense, then, that online security implies things like Myspace and Banking and Ebay.

Even if you don't there are millions who do.

I have good enough reason to assume ... if you asked people about this post ... people would not likely to call this a fraud, a con, or anything sinister of the sort. You just may have overstepped some kind of boundaries in your attempts to speak out against frivolous posting and the sort.

Remember ... everyone here is at all levels of learning. If you feel you are so far advanced ... than wouldn't your
time be better spent contributing to the growth of others?

Lastly ... if such a con man or woman is found on the site then why do you pay it so much attention? If a children's
security book doesn't fancy someone, well it won't be considered, will it? you know what I mean ... if a tree falls and no one's around to hear it .. does it make a sale? :)

What you have done here is spoken your opinion and nothing more. Worse is you've done it on a discussion
post that was not created by you. So it's intrusive, you see? It only takes a bit of empathy to understand that the quantity and the quality of your remarks against someone who's only message was really, "thank you" and "here's something free if you'd like", was way harsh and very intrusive to his opening discussion.

If you're goal is to not see certain content, your comments has as much of a chance of censoring it as any of my
comments can prevent you from responding to this. There's only one way to censor content on this site, and none of us has the authority to do it. And so if this kind of activity (these strong comments) isn't taking care of any problems, or contributing anything to the tune of this site's theme ... could we not take a few more minutes to create content (comments and such) that does? Wouldn't that help in overpowering content of a lesser quality?

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Can you agree on any of this Mr. Venters? I just think that in this case ... someone had to interject in the interest of fairness.

[Roger Mahaney]

I just added bill as a friend... why this clash of egos? calling someone a mindless idiot? were you drunk?
I'd like to give a shout to bill that planusa has an entire dept. dedicated to fighting child trafficking and I suggest
you link to them and try to get some work done... being concerned with child trafficking doesn't make you mindless, it makes you mindful and considerate of those less fortunate
http://planusa.org

[Christopher]

the guy kinda ... well he left ... it might've been something I said ... :)

[Abledragon]

My apologies - there appears to be a post missing from this thread...?

From the comments below I'm guessing someone flamed Bill for his post - but I haven't been able to read what was actually said.

However, assuming that's the case, it reminds me of Brennan (who I believe is a member here) who got totally flamed for her posts about the problems facing young America and, in particular, her post about the prevalence of cheating in schools.

You have to wonder about the mentality of people who let rip at others who are trying to raise awareness of problems that affect children or teenagers - these are the future of any country.

I absolutely applaud anyone who takes the trouble to raise awareness on these issues.

cheers,

Martin.

[Roger Mahaney]

I have a poem in my book called "ignore them" you should in my opinion reply to bill and not give comments that insult people any kind of consideration that they exist... press on to the higher calling the mending of the broken fence that is created when some poor unknowing kid is sold as a sex slave or teenager is date-raped by preventing it from happening to anyone else...

[Bill Wardell]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the support, what is crazy, is this was the furtherest thing from my mind when I posted this... Live and learn!

I've always believed a social community was where like minded people, got together to share ideas, thoughts and yes support...

OH well, I appreciate all of you who have taken the time to share your thoughts about this, and of course the most important thing is the safety of our children, everything takes a back seat, especially opinion's, ego's and pride...

Roger thanks for the link I will for sure link to them, and I will also contact them and see if we can help them with their cause, with our CyberHood Watch program...

Your friend,

Bill

[Roger Mahaney]

I'm quite certain you can like I dream about helping in the ways you can!!!
off to study online copy
peace my friend...

[Pamala Childress]

Dear Bill and fellow posters,
I didn't see the original post. However I am a grandmother of 3 little ones ( 7,5, and 2). They are on computers daily although not the internet yet. Also I have 2 nieces with My Space pages. I can say that they are careful about who is invited to join and post. This is a very real concern for parents, grandparents and all those that have had unfair and uncomfortable experiences on the internet. I can personally say that I am careful what sites I visit and I still receive on occasion some very unwanted email.
I commend all that assist in whatever capacity with safeguarding children, young adults ( teenagers don't like being referred to as a child...sigh), my family and myself.
Thank you Bill for caring.
Best wishes,
Pamala