Nobody concerned about creating all this content at Ning.com?

[Scott Hendison]

I first ran across Ning last summer, and was figuring something like this group would come along, and I'm glad to see it give me an excuse to play with Ning.

However, jumping ahead 18 months, who owns the thing?
Also, the URL's to the blogs here like this -
http://socialauthority.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=xxxxxxxx etc.

Are those even spidered? Can they rank and pass juice? it would might make me nervous creating too much original content here.

Of course in the meantime, we all have the "right now" benefit of these forums, lots of tips, digg / stumble / onlywire me groups, helping each other etc. that come along with a growing community, which is all good, but I'm not sure I'll be creating a blog here.

Jack, I joined because of you and your reputation...

I suspect that you just figured that Ning looked cooler than anything you've ever seen, so why not try it? - but I'm still curious why not do it yourself?

Aren't you concerned this might end up in the same boat as having a heavily trafficked free blog at Wordpress.com?

[Jack Humphrey]

Scott,

The reason I have it hosted here to to test the juice and the authority ning.com might or might not pass on. You are all part of that experiment.

BUT - the reason I chose ning over everything else is that I could host it here, start it fast, and at any time I can ask for the source code and take it with me.

Nothing here should ever be lost. If I decide there is only one benefit to hosting this here (that the updates to the software are done by ning without me having to get my coders involved) then I might move under fridaytrafficreport.com.

My choice was backed up by the fact that all would be protected and mobile in the event 18 months later, ning wants to go somewhere else with all this or they just disappear.

Good question!

[Jack Humphrey]

,,,oh, and as to the spidering question. That remains to be seen as well. I am not seeing pages show up in Google from here like they should and I will be working with Ning to see what they can do about those URLS. Although the main objective is to grow a community and pull direct traffic from here, I want everyone, myself included, to benefit from all the work they are doing here in the eyes of the search gods as well if possible.

Regardless of what ning ever does, this community will live on even if one of my properties sells for millions and I retire. I'll just give it to someone here and they can keep it going here or elsewhere.

[JaWar]

Greetings Jack,

Thank you for answering the question about Ning showing up in Google. I'm currently participating in several other Ning sites and had the same concern about pages showing up in Google. However, as you mentioned it makes since to build within the community and perhaps encourage traffic to other sites that way.

GOJAWAR.COM

[Warner Carter]

Good question about if the blogs here get links. It is a fun and interesting site anyway.

[Richard Schulz]

Are those even spidered? Can they rank and pass juice?

Time to educate Me Please, I am still trying to understand, please forgive my noobieness.
In The above question it asks do the pages that look like ,
ex. http://socialauthority.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=xxxxxxxx
get spidered
My question is; If a page is indexed does this indicate that the spiders have crawled it? If so do all indexed pages pass PR or only pages WithOut the NOFollow Link pass PR

Trying to get a better understanding, Thanks

Rick

[Scott Frangos]

Hello -

Excellent question, and interesting answers so far.

I suggest a group brainstorm on ways to "harvest" your juice should NING go away, get sold, etc. A couple of ideas:

1. Redirect the Juice: Purchase an independent domain name, and redirect it to your own blog here. Make copies of your work here, and if NING goes away, or you want to move, simply redirect your blog to a new location and fill it with your old content.

2. Multiply your NING Impact: If you are a WordPress BlogMaster, you know that there is a plugin that will capture the RSS feed from another site and place it into your own blog. This is called "scraping" if you do it to someone else without permission -- and it's illegal (copyright law). But if you scrape your own content (the blog RSS feed from entries you write here), into your privately maintained blog, you maximize your NING affect, with content appearing in two places. Possible downside is a Google penalty for duplicate content.

I look forward to your ideas.

- Scott
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[Beau Trickey]

I don't focus too much on SEO as that's not my area of expertise. My work involves writing and writing content for various websites but I find the whole web 2.0 fascinating so I've started to step in to get my feet wet so to speak. Seems to me that they are people who will do anything for the PR rank and sometimes they fall victim to search engine axes. Perhaps someone can share the best ways to build legitimate content for a website to clear the fog. I am not taking about sales pitches to buy your ebook or subscription service.

[Scott Hendison]

The best way to build legitimate content is to do simply that... build legitimate content. as a writer you should have no problem, and there is nothing special that you need to do. Write content for the readers and not for the search engines.

Put in regular additions of subject relevant content that is of interest and value to your readers and all the rest will follow automatically, assuming the site is structured properly and you have the basic fundamentals, like titles, descriptions, H1 tags, site maps etc.

[JaWar]

Ryan what do you mean by "as long as the title of scraped posts are different google will not penalize." I understand about not being penalized by google, but "the title of scraped posts" I do not please advise.

Thank you

[JaWar]

Scott, you are right on the money. I've only been on this site a few days and appreciate the discussions thus far. The other Ning sites I participate in are not about monetizing one's web presence, Internet marketing or SEO, so most of those folks don't get it yet.

You can also use blogger RSS Feed within the Ning network. The RSS Feed would like like the following http://www.selfpublishforprofit.blogspot.com/atom.xml NOTICE the /atom.xml at the end of the url.

GOJAWAR.COM

[James Constantine]

I've had 11 external links show up in my stats for wealthdiscoveries.com so some good is coming from the work.
Whether or not it will translate into a lot more traffic is something I'm watching for.
Plus, this is just plain cool. I've met some groovy folks here and hope that I can contribute a little bit.
James

[Ray Loesch]

It's probably been said a hundred times, but I did not join this network for the "juice" I joined because of the man behind it Jack Humphrey. Consider this - If you surround yourself with successful and like minded people some of that will rub off and you will become successful. That being said I have made some good friends here, learned a lot, and hope to contribute to the greater good which is to help someone become successful at what is they need help with. The people here are genuinely interested in what we are doing and that shows in the posts and comments and the sharing that is happening on a regular basis here. I don't get that from MySpace, Friendster or FaceBook.